Revenue. Profit. Growth. These words get tossed around constantly in the legal business world, often with oversimplified claims like, “Revenue is just vanity,” or “Bigger firms are always more stressful.” But if you’ve ever felt conflicted about what really matters when growing your law firm, you’re not alone.
In Episode 24 of Crushing Chaos With Law Firm Mentor, Allison Williams tackles one of the most polarizing debates in small firm ownership: Is law firm revenue just a vanity metric? Spoiler alert—it’s not that simple. By unpacking the real relationship between revenue and profit, Allison empowers you to make smarter, more strategic choices as you evolve from lawyer to CEO.
The Real Debate: Revenue vs. Profit Isn’t Either/Or
There are two dominant camps in the legal industry: the “revenue is vanity” crowd and the “revenue is everything” crowd. Both miss the bigger picture.
Allison explains that many consultants promote whichever side aligns with what they’re selling. Some use fear—suggesting that bigger firms mean more stress—while others glorify large revenue numbers without addressing the infrastructure needed to support them. But the truth is more nuanced.
Revenue matters. Profit matters. And both play critical roles in building a sustainable, systematized law firm.
As Allison shares, the goal isn’t choosing sides—it’s becoming a strategic CEO who understands how revenue fuels growth and how profit secures stability.
Why Revenue Still Matters (A Lot)
One of the biggest insights from this episode is that revenue is essential fuel for growth. Despite what some lifestyle-business advocates may say, you can’t systematize, staff, or scale without money coming in.
Allison breaks down how most firms start by generating clients through networking, referrals, or prior relationships. But once the firm begins growing, intentional investments become necessary—marketing, staff development, better systems, cultural initiatives, and more.
Each of those requires revenue.
Whether you’re hiring your first employee or building out an entire leadership team, growth demands financial resources. And the firms that stay stuck often do so because they try to “save” their way into success rather than investing their way into sustainability.
Growth Compresses Margins—And That’s Not a Bad Thing
A core truth that many lawyers resist is that margins naturally shrink as your firm grows. This isn’t failure—it’s a normal part of scaling.
Allison references the concept from Greg Crabtree’s work: the larger your team gets, the more you’ll need roles that don’t directly produce revenue. Office administrators, operations leaders, and strategic managers don’t bill clients—but they make everyone around them more effective.
While these roles temporarily reduce profit margins, they are essential to eliminating chaos, maintaining culture, and creating a predictable operation that can grow beyond your personal labor.
The key is understanding that compressing margins during growth is not a red flag—it’s a sign that you’re building real infrastructure.
High Revenue with Lower Margins vs. Low Revenue with High Margins
One of the most powerful takeaways from this episode is Allison’s explanation of why a firm with higher revenue and lower margins often produces more owner income than a small firm with high margins.
She illustrates this using two hypothetical law firm owners with different top-line numbers. Even with slimmer margins, the larger firm’s absolute dollars (in salary plus profit) exceed those of the smaller firm. That means more compensation, more capacity to invest in growth, and more stability during economic changes.
This insight debunks one of the most common myths in the small firm world—that you must prioritize margin percentages above all else. Percentages matter, but dollars create freedom.
Redefining Freedom: It’s Not About Staying Small
Many lawyers believe that staying small ensures peace, control, and predictability. But as Allison notes, your lifestyle quality has far more to do with your systems, not your size.
A well-run firm with a strong team and clear processes creates freedom at any revenue level. A messy firm drains you—whether it makes $300,000 or $3 million.
Allison shares from her own experience that larger firms can actually make the owner less essential, not more. With the right systems, you can step away when needed without chaos erupting in your absence.
Bringing It All Together: Your Revenue Is a Tool, Not a Trophy
At the end of the day, revenue isn’t vanity—it’s strategy. When used well, it fuels growth, stabilizes your team, strengthens culture, and gives you the freedom to lead your firm like a CEO.
If you’ve ever been told to fear revenue or stay small for safety, this episode is your permission to re-evaluate those assumptions.
Watch or listen to Episode 24 to dive deeper:
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25DRHK4svwU&t=42s
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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5qvEzVPyRlrf2aBG6oAfSZ?si=GMe2MaFzQCOmZE5Q0dBHtg
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/is-law-firm-revenue-a-vanity-metric/id1497474051?i=1000709403113
If you’re ready to turn insight into action, book a discovery call with Law Firm Mentor and take the next step toward scaling your firm with confidence.
Your revenue isn’t vanity—it’s your vehicle for freedom.

